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The Propcast

Mar 17, 2021

Summary: In this episode the Propcast talks to Jordan Kostelac from JLL Asia and Helen Lam from Lendlease about the unhidden truths of working in PropTech Asia. 
The Propcast is by Louisa Dickins, co-founder of LMRE the leading Global PropTech recruiter brought to you in partnership with UK PropTech Association, The UK PropTech Association is a membership organisation to drive the digital transformation of the property industry. This show will focus on connecting the Proptechs, real estate funds and VC’s globally…and get everyone talking about innovation of the build to rent environment.
About Our Host
Louisa Dickins 
Louisa started her career in property working at a well-known estate agency in London. Realising her people skills, she moved over to Lloyd May to pursue a career in recruitment. She now is a Director at LMRE, who are a specialist recruitment firm driven by PropTech and recruitment professionals, and Louisa oversees their 5 core areas. Louisa co-founded LMRE and provides a constructive recruitment platform to the new disruptors in real estate. Louisa is also on the board of Directors at UK PropTech Association (UKPA).
About LMRE
LMRE believe there is a better way to recruit. LMRE focus on a more comprehensive, client led focus delivering exceptional talent to the right place at the right time. They are passionate about the industry and passionate about people's careers. LMRE spend time with each client to become and an extension of the business, and their transparency and core values help them grow with the sector. LMRE simplify recruitment and innovate with our clients and evolve the people driven, PropTech community.
About Our Guests
Jordan Kostelac 
As JLL’s director for Proptech in the Asia Pacific, Jordan has been tasked with driving technical innovation within the firm and for their clients. He is also concurrently the co-founder and creative lead for home-grown cider brand NEONOTIC! and a founding partner of HK Walls, a non-profit arts organisation that aims to create opportunities for local and international artists which is best known for its annual street art festival held during Hong Kong’s art month each March. In Jordan’s mind, JLL’s path towards becoming a technology firm specialising in real estate must start with becoming an advisory firm first. 
Helen Lam 
Helen has over 19 years experience in property and development environments in Asia and Australia including 15 years in Commercial & Retail Property Management, Investment and Mixed-use/Urban Regeneration projects across Asia Pacific Regions. Helen has been in Asia for over 9 years in various senior roles leading highly successful transformation projects, developments, acquisitions, strategic management, and commercial projects. Helen has a strong knowledge of technical, operational, legal, and commercial aspects of the businesses. Track record of success in innovation, change management, leadership, governance, systems implementation and strategies around commercial and retail opportunities.
Helen’s current role oversees the Development Operations and innovation teams for Lendlease. She is primarily responsible for managing the process of governance, corporate innovation and change management. This means not only supporting people as they originate and execute new ideas, driving consistent standards for the existing portfolio of urban regeneration projects but also recognising solutions to be researched, tested and integrated into the way they work.
Resources mentioned
LMRE website 
UKPA website
JLL Asia Pacific website 
Lendlease website 
Insights From This Episode
• That urgency and that just instinct to act when something is almost existential is really what drives progress more than sitting back and waiting until we find what we think is the smoothest path – Jordan Kostelac 
• There will be macro thinkers and there's micro thinkers, and the job right now is to pull both of them together to actually tangibly deliver the micro projects, but have the macro view– Helen Lam
• You need to harvest an ecosystem that needs to be nurtured as a community to make progress in the industry – Helen Lam
• That veil of secrecy that existed between asset holders and the tenants is much more thin than it used to be. So of course, we're trying to make sure that technology supports better analysis and more sophisticated transactions – Jordan Kostelac
• I think the most interesting trend is where we're taking human senses and then applying computing specifically to look for a certain things using those senses – Jordan Kostelac
• I always encourage younger women in my teams to essentially get out there on the construction site. The reality is, if you don't actually put yourself out there, then it won't change – Helen Lam
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